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Most of you guys won't like it or agree but Floyd does outbox JCC. Its just a bad style match-up, Floyd won't be stupid enough to trade with him at ANY point in the fight. He'd get criticised by most people for the way he fought, but he would win the fight by clear-cut decision.
 

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Floyd doesn't get KOed because he doesn't allow himself opportunities to get KOed. Took Chavez 12 full rounds to KO Meldrick Taylor, after landing clean devastating punches all night. He'd be lucky to land 1/10th that amount of punches against Floyd, who HAS proven to have a good chin himself.

SO, once you acknowledge Floyd doesn't get knocked out, you must logically conclude he wins by decision. We already saw Chavez vs Whitaker, what more of blue print do you need?
 

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If you go by Whitaker-Chavez you might as well take into account Mayweather-Castillo I and say Floyd was at his best. Taylor started out at 140, Mayweather at 130, Floyd wouldn't be able to take the type of punishment Taylor took. He's better defensively so he wouldn't anyway. You guys are biased as **** though so I'm not gonna get indepth with this. 1/10th get the **** outta here with that ****.

At 130 Chavez by late KO, 135 Chavez UD or late KO, 140 Mayweather SD or UD, 147 Mayweather UD.
 

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If you go by Whitaker-Chavez you might as well take into account Mayweather-Castillo I and say Floyd was at his best. Taylor started out at 140, Mayweather at 130, Floyd wouldn't be able to take the type of punishment Taylor took. He's better defensively so he wouldn't anyway. You guys are biased as **** though so I'm not gonna get indepth with this. 1/10th get the **** outta here with that ****.

At 130 Chavez by late KO, 135 Chavez UD or late KO, 140 Mayweather SD or UD, 147 Mayweather UD.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Mayweather was injured against Castillo, keep reaching.
 

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Floyd doesn't get KOed because he doesn't allow himself opportunities to get KOed. Took Chavez 12 full rounds to KO Meldrick Taylor, after landing clean devastating punches all night. He'd be lucky to land 1/10th that amount of punches against Floyd, who HAS proven to have a good chin himself.

SO, once you acknowledge Floyd doesn't get knocked out, you must logically conclude he wins by decision. We already saw Chavez vs Whitaker, what more of blue print do you need?
First of all Floyd isnt close to Whitaker, second, Taylor ended bleeding internally, with broken ribs, with broken facial bones and permanently damaged.

1/10 of that is enough to knock Floyd or to make him quit IMO.

Chavez was past his prime against Whitaker and he didnt lost (altough I, as most people, scored the fight for Pernell, it was a draw).

You need balls to beat a fighter like Chavez and I just dont think Floyd has them.
 

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First of all Floyd isnt close to Whitaker, second, Taylor ended bleeding internally, with broken ribs, with broken facial bones and permanently damaged.

1/10 of that is enough to knock Floyd or to make him quit IMO.

Chavez was past his prime against Whitaker and he didnt lost (altough I, as most people, scored the fight for Pernell, it was a draw).

You need balls to beat a fighter like Chavez and I just dont think Floyd has them.
He isn't close? He's very close. I just made a thread about that not long ago.

And taking 1/10th of the punches is not the same as 1/10th of the damages given. Stuff like internal injuries only happen after you reach a certain threshold, and that threshold would never be reached against Floyd.

Chavez was still prime. I mean if he wasn't prime he must of had two feet in the grave when he fought De La Hoya. :facepalm:

And balls is not the way to beat Chavez...that plays right into his game. You beat Chavez by out boxing him, like Pernell did. What balls did Pernell show? Did you see him trying to bang?

Can't believe you reminded the forum that the fight was scored a draw. Like that has any validity. The fight wasn't remotely close. :facepalm:
 

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He isn't close? He's very close. I just made a thread about that not long ago.

And taking 1/10th of the punches is not the same as 1/10th of the damages given. Stuff like internal injuries only happen after you reach a certain threshold, and that threshold would never be reached against Floyd.

Chavez was still prime. I mean if he wasn't prime he must of had two feet in the grave when he fought De La Hoya. :facepalm:

And balls is not the way to beat Chavez...that plays right into his game. You beat Chavez by out boxing him, like Pernell did. What balls did Pernell show? Did you see him trying to bang?

Can't believe you reminded the forum that the fight was scored a draw. Like that has any validity. The fight wasn't remotely close. :facepalm:
Because you made a thread about it it doesnt make it true.

And of course he wasnt at his best against Pernell, who did he beat after that??? Frankie Randall???

Frankie Randall beat Chavez like 3 months after the Whithaker fight so no, he wasnt at his best.

And yea, I do think you need balls to beat Chaves, first left hook to the liver of Floyd and he will become hesitant.
 

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Because you made a thread about it it doesnt make it true.

And of course he wasnt at his best against Pernell, who did he beat after that??? Frankie Randall???

Frankie Randall beat Chavez like 3 months after the Whithaker fight so no, he wasnt at his best.

And yea, I do think you need balls to beat Chaves, first left hook to the liver of Floyd and he will become hesitant.
The thread doesn't say who's better dingleberry, it just shows how close it is.

Chavez was clearly at the end of his prime, and don't sell Frankie short. He was a dangerous puncher and Chavez under rated him. In the rematch he showed up like he should have the first time. Also it was more like 4.5 months but w/e.

Mayweather isn't becoming hesitant because he isn't going to be aggressive to begin with. He'll be happy to keep his distance the whole fight, in a very boring affair.
 

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The thread doesn't say who's better dingleberry, it just shows how close it is.

Chavez was clearly at the end of his prime, and don't sell Frankie short. He was a dangerous puncher and Chavez under rated him. In the rematch he showed up like he should have the first time. Also it was more like 4.5 months but w/e.

Mayweather isn't becoming hesitant because he isn't going to be aggressive to begin with. He'll be happy to keep his distance the whole fight, in a very boring affair.
I never said anything about what the thread says dingleberry, whatever that means.

I know Maywather isnt going to be agressive but Chavez is. You really think Chavez isnt able to land solid shots against Floyd??? You know the dude is an ATG, top 50 for a lot of people, top 100 for pretty much anyone, I think you are underestimating him.
 

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I never said anything about what the thread says dingleberry, whatever that means.

I know Maywather isnt going to be agressive but Chavez is. You really think Chavez isnt able to land solid shots against Floyd??? You know the dude is an ATG, top 50 for a lot of people, top 100 for pretty much anyone, I think you are underestimating him.
Mayweather is in the same boat Chavez is in on the ATG list. And Mayweather's STYLE is a problem for Chavez. Styles make fights... If Chavez had a style that I thought would give Mayweather trouble, I'd say he'd prolly win the fight.

The two are just as good as each other, but one is more suited to fight the other than vice versa.
 

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Mayweather is in the same boat Chavez is in on the ATG list. And Mayweather's STYLE is a problem for Chavez. Styles make fights... If Chavez had a style that I thought would give Mayweather trouble, I'd say he'd prolly win the fight.

The two are just as good as each other, but one is more suited to fight the other than vice versa.
Fair enough. I think Chavez is way higher than Floyd in an ATG list but whatever.

You think Floyd wins, I think Chavez and neither is going to change his mind. Its all good.
 

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i think Floyd would win by a verrrrrrry close SD. i don't think Jr would have the guts to fight Chavez and would keep backin off like he did most of the time against a past his best De La Hoya.
Two things.

1) De La Hoya was still game for Mayweather.

2) De La Hoya outweighed Mayweather by over 15 lbs in the ring.


Floyd did just enough to win, he purposefully didn't take any risks.
 
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