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Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis.

Both in there prime.
Who would have won.
 

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tyson said:
Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis.

Both in there prime.
Who would have won.
Lennox Lewis used to spar with Mike Tyson in the 80s when they were still very young! Lewis admitted "I hope I never have to take on this guy!!!"

If Lennox Lewis... in his prime... took on The Mike Tyson who was at the peak of his game in the middle of the late 80s (THINK THE MIKE TYSON WHO DESTROYED THE UNDEFEATED MICHAEL SPINKS)... MIKE TYSON WOULD HAVE WON... I SWEAR IT!
 

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Lennox Lewis used to spar with Mike Tyson in the 80s when they were still very young! Lewis admitted "I hope I never have to take on this guy!!!"

If Lennox Lewis... in his prime... took on The Mike Tyson who was at the peak of his game in the middle of the late 80s (THINK THE MIKE TYSON WHO DESTROYED THE UNDEFEATED MICHAEL SPINKS)... MIKE TYSON WOULD HAVE WON... I SWEAR IT!
Michael Spinks shouldn't have been undefeated though, he should have had 2 losses on his record but Holmes was robbed both times... What are ya gonna do though?
 

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This one is easy. Tyson would have won. Nobody and I mean nobody would have beat Tyson in his prime. NOBODY!!!!!!
 

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i agree that tyson would have won. Early KO but i dont agree with your point of nobody would have beaten a prime Tyson. Buster Douglas and Evander Holyfield.

Im sure Tyson wouldnt have been able to beat the greats including... muhammad ali, joe frazier, george foreman.
Tyson is my favourite boxer ever and i love watching his fights but he wouldnt have been able to beat the real legends.
 

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bill1234 said:
Michael Spinks shouldn't have been undefeated though, he should have had 2 losses on his record but Holmes was robbed both times... What are ya gonna do though?

I knew Bill would manage to get Holmes into this thread.
 

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Tyson's beter days was behind him befor the Douglas and Holyfield fights (he beat Douglas anyway that fight). But Tyson in his prime will beat Ali and the rest of the greats of that time and befor. At that point in his career Tyson was unbeatable.
 

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like all mortals by the time he took on buster douglas tyson was all ready living the big life, gogo girls and plenty of pot without kevin rooney the decipline went down the tubes, had he been like a , lets say marvin hagler, he still be undefeaded to this day but a don king happen to him enougth said
 

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Tyson would be beaten, no body would go undefeated if they went way past their prime, thats why Marciano got out while he did. He was just past his prime, he wasn't at his peak condition 24/7 as he usualy was, and he just knew it was time to get out. Douglas would have beaten Tyson no matter what. Tyson was a bully who would back down to someone who hit him back just as hard. And Douglas never backed down. Same thing with Holyfield. Both of whome out slugged Tyson.
 

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Bill1234 Im so disappointed in you man I thought you would ride with me on this one. Tyson was not in the fight months befor the fight even happened "you know that". Tyson was getting his butt whipped all night long against Douglas getting hit hard and all but he still floored Douglas for a count of 15 "you know that". And by the time he fought Holyfield he was not the same fighter he was befor. After he got out of prison he only won fights off of his opponents fear. "You know that too."
 

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Tyson KO2. yes i said 2
 

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Bill1234 Im so disappointed in you man I thought you would ride with me on this one. Tyson was not in the fight months befor the fight even happened "you know that". Tyson was getting his butt whipped all night long against Douglas getting hit hard and all but he still floored Douglas for a count of 15 "you know that". And by the time he fought Holyfield he was not the same fighter he was befor. After he got out of prison he only won fights off of his opponents fear. "You know that too."
I do know that Tyson was getting the crap kicked out of him before the Douglas fight in sparring, but that is his own falt. He should have done a little something called "training". He was screwing around the entire time... He partied constanatly and lets just say he did other things too. I never said he was in his prime against Holyfield. When Tyson knocked down Douglas, the count started a little late, again Tyson's falt. When you knock a guy down you go to the neutral corner the ref tells you to go to, then the ref will start the count. BUT when you just stand there and look at the guy, the ref won't start the count. Ali got away with that though. Tyson looked at Douglas when he was on his butt for a good 2 seconds. And Douglas got up on 10.
 

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I do know that Tyson was getting the crap kicked out of him before the Douglas fight in sparring, but that is his own falt. He should have done a little something called "training". He was screwing around the entire time... He partied constanatly and lets just say he did other things too. I never said he was in his prime against Holyfield. When Tyson knocked down Douglas, the count started a little late, again Tyson's falt. When you knock a guy down you go to the neutral corner the ref tells you to go to, then the ref will start the count. BUT when you just stand there and look at the guy, the ref won't start the count. Ali got away with that though. Tyson looked at Douglas when he was on his butt for a good 2 seconds. And Douglas got up on 10.
Tyson lost to Douglas because he did little-no preparation for it... if he did... and took the fight seriously... he would've won! I reckon the best boxer... no matter what their skill level... and no matter who their opponent is... truly is great... if he takes EVERY SINGLE FIGHT SERIOUSLY... whether it be the number one contender... a journeyman... or an "EASY PAYDAY"... EVERY SINGLE FIGHT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!!! So many great boxers fall into that trap of "I don't need to prepare for this fight... it's just an easy payday"... and today's boxers should learn from it! :D
 

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Tyson lost to Douglas because he did little-no preparation for it... if he did... and took the fight seriously... he would've won! I reckon the best boxer... no matter what their skill level... and no matter who their opponent is... truly is great... if he takes EVERY SINGLE FIGHT SERIOUSLY... whether it be the number one contender... a journeyman... or an "EASY PAYDAY"... EVERY SINGLE FIGHT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!!! So many great boxers fall into that trap of "I don't need to prepare for this fight... it's just an easy payday"... and today's boxers should learn from it! :D
WhiteTyson you are right!:thumbsup: If Tyson took the fight like a big fight he would have won, BUT he didn't and he got beat up.
 

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WhiteTyson you are right!:thumbsup: If Tyson took the fight like a big fight he would have won, BUT he didn't and he got beat up.
One of the few reasons why I don't like Mike Tyson is because of the lack of heart and will he showed late in his career... and his lack or preparation for some bouts... most notably The Douglas Fight. The greatest boxers take every fight seriously... every single one... no matter who it is against!!! Muhammad Ali was a bit slack in some of his fights so I'll have a go at him for that... he lost to Leon Spinks goddamn it!!! I reckon Rocky Marciano... although a brawler (the greatest brawler in boxing history ever... in the heavyweight division and in all of boxing)... I reckon he took every single fight he was ever in seriously!!! He also had the will and the heart!!!:cool:
 

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Lewis would have beaten Tyson when Tyson was at his best.

Tyson stopped Holmes, Tubbs, Spinks in 1988, Bruno and Williams in 1989 and his 1st bout in 1990 was against Douglas. He was just 23 years old in 1990 when he fought Buster, so how would he be past his prime. If he would have beaten Douglas, people would say he was still in his prime. After the Douglas bout, he beat Tillman, Stewart and Ruddock twice before going to jail. So before he went to jail, he was still at the top of his game.

If he didn't train that good for Douglas, that's his fault. They say Louis didn't train for the 1st Schmeling bout either, BUT he proved how Great he was in the years after.

After he came out he stopped McNeeley, Buster Mathis Jr., Bruno again, even faster then he did before, and Bruce Seldon. Then he ran into Holyfield, who like Douglas, stood up to Tyson and backed him up and Tyson folded again. The same thing happened in their next bout, as well in the bouts with Lewis, Williams and McBride, Final line NO HEART.

Even Tyson stated that Lewis was too big for him and would have never beaten him. The only way he could have would be to catch Lewis early, if not, it would be all Lewis. Tyson never had the heart of a Marciano, Ali, Frazier, etc. He never came back in a bout after getting hurt, like all the other Greats did.
 

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Tyson stopped Holmes, Tubbs, Spinks
Holmes was past it by far and coming off of a retirement, Tubbs was alright, but not great, and Spinks never should have had the heavyweight title in the first place (he was a blown up lightheavy who got lucky and the judges were on his side twice against Holmes). All of them Tyson just seemed to take advantage of. Tyson refused to shake Holmes's hand and gave him no respect before the fight. Afterwards he admited that this is a word for word quote: "If Holmes was at his best, I wouldn't stand a chance". Spinks had no shot to be Tyson prime or not.
 

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Holmes was past it by far and coming off of a retirement, Tubbs was alright, but not great, and Spinks never should have had the heavyweight title in the first place (he was a blown up lightheavy who got lucky and the judges were on his side twice against Holmes). All of them Tyson just seemed to take advantage of. Tyson refused to shake Holmes's hand and gave him no respect before the fight. Afterwards he admited that this is a word for word quote: "If Holmes was at his best, I wouldn't stand a chance". Spinks had no shot to be Tyson prime or not.
holmes was only 38 when tyson beat him and realy should have beat stinxs twice ( i thought he was robbed ) so you could say when tyson fought him he should still have been hw champ of the world and undefeated, lewis peaked age 36-37-38 as did holyfeild. tyson was just on another level from holmes at any age period.
 
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