[SugarShane]

I would like to see the Firpo vs. gaaa what's his name? I need Bill or JCC for this one. Anyway there were I think around 9 knockdowns.

 

[SugarShane]

Bill help me out! Who was it that was in the fight with Firpo that had around 9 knockdowns? That is one of my all time favorites.

 

[SugarShane]

Ooooh It might have been Fullmer. I just can't remember and can't find it on my external harddrive.

 

[SugarShane]

crap it was dempsey vs firpo that was one of the greatest fights i had ever seen. I cant believe i got them mixed up. Amazing. I think dempsey was knocked through the ropes, people helped him back into the ring and came back to knock firpo out i believe.

That was one of the ones I was thinking of. Damn, if that only happened nowadays.

 

[SugarShane]

Back then they would fight twice a month, now twice a year. Back then they were tougher. Now if someone gets headbutted or hit low, they cry and cry to the ref. Back then they would hit them back. If you got your nose broken or broke your hand during the fight, you fought on. If you were on queer street, you fought right back, if you were all bloody and couldn't see you fought on. The last guy I saw do that was Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini, and he was in the 80's. Back then it wasn't uncommon at all if you fought the same guy 7 or 8 times. They didn't even start wearing mouth gards until the 20's or 30's.

As much as I want to disagree with that, I can't. 100%

 

[SugarShane]

Bill it is 2007!!! LOL. Do you even use cell phones? I can't believe you use a computer either

 

[SugarShane]

Right back when boxing was FREE. Nobody wants to watch someone get beat twice in a row and then pay to see a third fight. I'm pretty sure when someone loses and they get a rematch they try to win still today.

 

[SugarShane]

If you get beat by the same guy twice (TODAY!!!!!) then you clearly don't have what it takes. Back then the skill level was soooooooooooooo much lower that you always had a shot.

 

[SugarShane]

Bill, my point is this. Take basketball for example. The form of a jumpshot has been modified/altered significantly over time. Baseball...the form for pitchers has completely been revamped. The thing is that with time comes realization and new ways to better improve sport. The same is true with boxing. The science of it has gotten more advanced, and in turn, so have the fighters. I don't dispute a lot of what you are saying just some of it.

 

[SugarShane]

Please don't compare those other girl sports to boxing.

Baseball= I have a blister I can't pitch for 6 months but I still get paid
Basketball= I tripped over my own feet so call a foul on him and BTW I have a jammed finger call an ambulance.

Boxing is a tough guy sport well at least it use to be.
Now all the "top" boxers don't want to get scratched. Oh just like the other Delicate sports.

All sports are comparable when talking about evolution.

 

[SugarShane]

Boxing has two mayor problem way too much money
And no form of organization.

Rules for the top 100 ranked fighters
1-champion must fight every 3 months to keep his belt
2-champion must fight only opponents ranked 5th or better.
3-if a champion fights to a draw he looses his belt and a mando rematch for the belt must be his next fight or it goes to the other guy.
4-ranked #100 thru #70 can call any one out in that bracket
5-ranked #75 thru #50 can call any one out in that bracket
6-ranked #55 thru #25 can call any one out in that bracket
7-ranked #20 thru #10 can call any one out in that bracket
8-ranked #15 thru #1 can call any one out in that bracket
8-ranked #5 thru #champ can call any one out in that bracket
9-if a ranked fighter gets called out by a lower ranked fighter in his bracket he must take the fight, unless he has a scheduled up coming fight with a higher ranked fighter then him self, or has already been called out by a another fighter in his bracket.
10-a ranked fighter can only call out another higher ranked fighter in his Bracket.
Now let’s see how long a champ can hold his belt
I bet it won't be too long.
10-when 2 ranked fighter meet they will swap rankings at the end of the fight if the higher ranked fighter looses the fight.

I know its crazy and it needs allot of details but this is a rough draft of what I would like the see boxing become.
I would also like to have 5 judges per fight with instant replay on some calls.

That is a dreamworld for me. I would love to see something like that, but unfortunately it will NEVER happen.

 

[SugarShane]

Hmmm...I don't want to start a war with Bill for one thing. I partially agree on Willie Pep. I would have to think about this one for a while.

 

[SugarShane]

Umm...I personally don't know if I would have any of them in my top ten. There are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many names to consider. I would have to think about it.

 

[SugarShane]

Who do you like that fights now, in 2007?

 

[SugarShane]

I know you are a heavyweight guy but come on. You don't like Shane Mosley? I wont even ask about Mayweather. What about Chad Dawson? Kelly Pavlik? Joe Calzaghe? Manny Pacqiauo? Open up homie.

 

[SugarShane]

yeah bill, you seem to love these guys that are all out aggressive, and pacquiao, pavlik, miranda, paul williams, mosley, berto, hatton ( many more ) fit into that category. To be honest bill, i own alot of classic fights and have watched all of them that i own but i really cant get into them as much as today's fights. They are in the past and have no business in todays world of boxing. I'll admit, watching the classics like ali, and leonard were the guys whos career sets i first bought ( along with tyson and jones ) and they really got me into watching boxing, but anymore, i dont care to rewatch any of their fights because it wont affect todays business. I dont know where i am going with this. To me the newer fights excite me alot more than older fights.

I agree 100%. The old fights don't do nearly as much for me. Knowing the outcome sucks, and there is zero hype.

 

[SugarShane]

I reckon if someone like Larry Holmes were to come back today, They would unify all the belts and easily go a whole career without a loss..... THATS HOW POOR THE LEVEL OF COMPETITION HAS BECOME!!!!!!!

Out of all the choices you pick Holmes? The division is piss poor I will agree.