r.i.p EDDIE said:
^^^^^^^^^^
Kool thanks..
Of topic, but was Fraizer a greater fighter then Holyfield, Leonox Lewis or Muhammed Ali, you say that the marchano guy is better then Ali so i just asked because didn't Fraizer beat Ali in some kind of big match
I beleive Marciano would beat Ali in a fight. But that doesn't mean he should rank higher. For example, here is my top 10 list:
1. Joe Louis: A very rounded fighter and had 25 title defences in 11 years as champion. His main problem was his chin, which is what brings him down in head to head lists.
2. Muhammad Ali: Overall and overrated fighter. People like to buy into his "I am the greatest" rants and screams. He's a very good fighter head to head, and was heavyweight champion 3 times.
3. Rocky Marciano: Undefeated and packed very easily the best 1 punch KO power in his right hand of all time. He nearly killed a person with it, and knocked sooooooooo many others out cold for minutes at a time with it.
4. Larry Holmes: Was heavyweight champion for 7 1/2 years. Had 20 succesful title defences, and lost his title in a very close and controversial decision to Michael Spinks. In the rematch for the title with him, he beat Spinks around the ring and got robbed of the decision in more than 70% (estimate) of peoples eyes who saw the fight. Had a great comeback in the 90's when he was in his 40's too. Possesed the best jab in heavyweight history.
5. Jack Dempsey: Very good head to head and very aggressive. Weakish title reign, but an ATG fighter.
6. Jack Johnson: Heavyweight champion for 7 years. A very good, techincal fighter.
7. George Foreman: In his first career he was a wild swinging slugger. He was the 2nd hardest hitter of all time only after Earnie Shavers. In his comeback he became the oldest heavyweight champion of all time when he regained the title (45 years old). He was getting beat up the whole fight and landed a somewhat lucky, set up punch to KO Michael Moorer.
8. Joe Frazier: Greatest left hook of all time. Was the first of 5 to beat Muhammad Ali. Lost his 2 rematches to Ali though. Was KO'd by George Foreman when he lost the title. One of the greatest body punchers of all time, and very aggresive.
9. Sonny Liston: Had one of the heaviest jabs of all time, and had bonecrushing power in his uppercut and left hook. He is another fighter who does good head to head. He took a dive against Ali in the rematch, and the first match remains a mystery. He really did injure his shoulder badly, and that was medically proven, but he still remains one of the most mysterious champions of all time.
10. Ezzard Charles.: He beat Joe Louis for the title in 1947, continued to reign until he was knocked out by Jersey Joe Walcott with a great left uppercut. He was an extremely good fighter, and fought competively with Rocky Marciano in 1954. He was pounded into the ground in the rematch though.
Ive changed my #10 spot a bunch of times. It depends what mood I'm in. Usually it will cycle between Lewis, Charles, and Tunney.