Only with combos, other than that he was average.tommygunn said:im voting ali to for the reasons posted above but mike is a very close second, tyson was brutaly fast.
no bill tyson was awsome, i know you dont like him because he brutalised your hero holmes but give credit dude young tyson was a speedster single punch or combo.bill1234 said:Only with combos, other than that he was average.
I could care less that he beat an old, rusty Holmes, I don't like his dirty fighting, and his lack of respect to everyone. Tyson had a slow jab and right, but he had great hook and uppercut combo's. By the way he is barely not in my top 10 heavy weights, he is like 11 or 12.tommygunn said:no bill tyson was awsome, i know you dont like him because he brutalised your hero holmes but give credit dude young tyson was a speedster single punch or combo.
Norton was slower than Ali, Norton had a very awkward style...White Tyson said:Ken Norton
I always thought that he was the only heavyweight that was faster than Muhammad Ali.
Your opinion... but Norton was a track and field champion during high school and because of him... they had to invoke "The Ken Norton rule"... and I just thought he was that slighest bit faster than Muhammad Ali... not by much... but just a tiny bit faster!!!:thumbsup:bill1234 said:Norton was slower than Ali, Norton had a very awkward style...
Norton grew up in the upper middle class like Ali, and he was always athletic and liked most sports. He joined the armed force's and started boxing from there.White Tyson said:Your opinion... was Norton was a track and field champion during high school and because of him... they had to invoke "The Ken Norton rule"... and I just thought he was that slighest bit faster than Muhammad Ali... not by much... but just a tiny bit faster!!!:thumbsup:
Larry's straight punches could be incredibly fast in his prime. It's currently a toss up between Patterson and Ali with me, with me currently leaning towards Patterson. His inside-mid range speed was awesome. Ali's flurries were extremely fast too, but they did little damage.Not sure why Holmes is even in the discussion. Can't believe I'm the only one who picked Patterson. He clearly had faster hands than Ali. :laugh:
The speed of Holmes jab impressed me. That's about it.Larry's straight punches could be incredibly fast in his prime. It's currently a toss up between Patterson and Ali with me, with me currently leaning towards Patterson. His inside-mid range speed was awesome. Ali's flurries were extremely fast too, but they did little damage.
His right was very fast too in his prime. Against Cooney he threw 2 consecutive right crosses in the speed many fighters would have thrown a 1-2.The speed of Holmes jab impressed me. That's about it.
flashes of speed and consecutive speed are entirely different. I believe I saw Patterson throw 6 punches in 1 second once. Not like he could sustain that for the whole fight.His right was very fast too in his prime. Against Cooney he threw 2 consecutive right crosses in the speed many fighters would have thrown a 1-2.