heres that knockdown.bill1234 said:Good, but no I haven't. I would love to see that. Its always funny to see the look on Tysons face when he is knocked down, like when Lewis knocked him down. It was hilarious when Douglas floored him and he was more concerned about his mouth peice then getting up.
the punch that rahman hit lewis was no luck punch. if you watch you'll see lewis drop his right rahman see's this and lands a great shot. people said mcCall ko'd lewis with a lucky punch:laugh:Dr. Wisdom said:Rahman -- Beats Lewis with a luck punch, and in the rematch gets snow Angeled.
Lewis quites, and so does elder Klitschko and he magically gets another belt.
No successful title def. Drawed with Toney, and Lost to OLG.
bruno never defended he has the shortest reign for any hw champ ever i think its 109 days.bill1234 said:Bruno at least had 1 succesful defence, Douglas lost his very next fight after Tyson.
maybe bill but if you look at brunos form in his 2 fights with tyson and douglas win over tyson i dont think so.bill1234 said:Good point, but I think Bruno would beat Douglas.
my god how did i forget about the clinch king bruno and douglas were better than him on there bad nights.dmoney said:Ruiz is the person who i feel is the least qualified to be called champion at any point in his career.
are you tripin on acid.prettyboywho said:Taylor SHOULD NOT have been brought up in this tread. He is a great champ he fights the best in every fight unlike Floyd. He will kill Mora then he will kill Joe. Joe will come straight ahead just like Ouma did and we will have the same result. He might just ko Joe because as we can see the boy is getting better under Manny. And I dont think that Joe will take the same punches that Ouma did. Taylor took Ouma out of his fight and made him fight his fight and he will do the same to Joe.
AND YES I THOUGHT TAYLOR BEAT WRIGHT I HAD IT 115 113
theres a bit of contradiction there jet, when you say hattons all heart then compare him to ruiz ??.Jetcar said:Here is my two cents:
Rahman: under-achiever extraordinaire
Margarito: this guy sucks. No defense, no footwork, but has heavy hands. Some bad losses on his record.
Hatton: one dimensional "mini-John-Ruiz" (I'm preparing for Tommygunn's rebuttal -- I imagine he'll ban me for having slighted his hero... ) All heart, questionable skills.
Valuev: this guy is the worst champ (HW) in my opinion in the last 5-6 years. Right behind him is John Ruiz's pathetic reign....
Guys who should have done more (i.e.: waste of talent):
Lewis: skilled, but didn't do much when it counted the most
(should have rematched Klit, in my opinion)
Roy Jones: skilled but never fought the big fights when it mattered. (i.e.: Calzaghe, Darius M., etc) Beating Ruiz was a hands-down gimmee.
Floyd Mayweather: needs to fight better opposition at more meaningful times in their careers. Fighting Oscar helps his bottom line, nothing else.
well jet you know where i stand on the 140/147 divisions we've debated it for a year now. :laugh: lets wait till near fight time and ill stand any amount of points in a private bet with you. lets start with margie v williams, i think margie stops the punisher, i wont name a round but at some point definatley. :thumbsup:Jetcar said:Comparing Hatton to Ruiz because of all the clutching and grabbing.
Move forward, slug, then clutch/grab.
Ruiz is much worse in my books, for his boring style, and inability to win a fight without losing fans at the same time.
We'll see if Hatton fights Mayweather after DelaHoya. By then, Williams will have killed Margarito, anyway, and there won't be anyone else left at welter for him to fight, if he wants big money. Williams will fight Cotto, since Margarito will be gone. Mayweather vs. Hatton will only make sense at that point. Hopefully.
margarito is an absolute bull at 147 he's stronger at the weight than williams who at 6ft1 will only have height advantage by 2 inches, remember margarito is 5ft11 thats only 2 inches which is nothing !!!daveDaboxingfan said:You are missing a very important point with Williams actually 3 points
3-he might not be able to make weight in 1-2 years from now.
Remember he is still growing.
But is he makes weight with out complications (starving him self for to weeks just to make weight)
I feel he will be king.