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tommygunn said:
bruno never defended once bill his first fight as champ was against tyson which he lost in 3 rounds.

he was only champ for about 3 months.
Nice call Tommy Iwas going to remined bill of that. Some of these guys who defend there title a couple of times do so against foes who aren't the best.
Altho he (douglas) did awful,He did put the title on the line to a Holyfield who was at the top of his game.Holding the title for a long time is one thing,but how you hold it is another.
Example,After Dempsey beat Firpo he didn't put his title on the line for three years.
 

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tysons easy for nobody but were debating the worst champ and when you see the fighters on bruno's record he cant be far away plus he took the title from a paper champ mcCall.
 

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Good point, but I think Bruno would beat Douglas.
 

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bill1234 said:
Good point, but I think Bruno would beat Douglas.
maybe bill but if you look at brunos form in his 2 fights with tyson and douglas win over tyson i dont think so.

i know thats not much to go on but douglas had a pretty good jab which would have troubled frank but frank could ko anyone at any given time.

good thread this guys.
 

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Ruiz is the person who i feel is the least qualified to be called champion at any point in his career.
 

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dmoney said:
Ruiz is the person who i feel is the least qualified to be called champion at any point in his career.
my god how did i forget about the clinch king bruno and douglas were better than him on there bad nights.

the carebare is so sour he turns the milk bad!!!!
 

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bill1234 said:
Good point, but I think Bruno would beat Douglas.
Both fellows are about the same size,same reach,they both beat McCall.both have been stoped about five times.I really haven't seen either one of them fight that much.Douglas would probably be the boxer.Only stand out differance Douglas beat Tyson for (I think three belts) Bruno got one belt from McCall.Also Bruno lost twice to Tyson.

It wouldn't be one of my dream fights.
 

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I agree with dmoney on that, his loss to Jones did not impress me in the least.
 

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taylor stunk again, he was pushed around from a guy who can make 147 and he only fought for the last minute of every round.
 

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But guys, he won :thumbsup:

Just like he has been doin he just wins.

His name should not even be brought up in this thread.
 

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ERIK said:
But guys, he won :thumbsup:

Just like he has been doin he just wins.

His name should not even be brought up in this thread.
yeah:rolleyes: Erik

He finally actually won a fight so what’s it now
1 w out of the last 4 fights.
 

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its clear to me and the rest of the boxing world he should be 2 and 2 for his last 4 fights, he shared them with hop and anyone who thinks winky never beat him needs there heads looked at. sergio mora will beat him when they face, or he will take the big $$$$ fight with calzaghe and get whupped worse than lacy.
 

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Taylor SHOULD NOT have been brought up in this tread. He is a great champ he fights the best in every fight unlike Floyd. He will kill Mora then he will kill Joe. Joe will come straight ahead just like Ouma did and we will have the same result. He might just ko Joe because as we can see the boy is getting better under Manny. And I dont think that Joe will take the same punches that Ouma did. Taylor took Ouma out of his fight and made him fight his fight and he will do the same to Joe.

AND YES I THOUGHT TAYLOR BEAT WRIGHT I HAD IT 115 113
 

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It was like watching a black john Ruiz (terrible, boring lots and lots and lots hugging and holding)
Ruiz is an exiting fighter next to Taylor.

I rather see him blow out chumps.
Cuz he sucks!!!!

I am really getting sick of all these BS champs

UFC here I come.











Not
But I am watching more of it lately.
 

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prettyboywho said:
Taylor SHOULD NOT have been brought up in this tread. He is a great champ he fights the best in every fight unlike Floyd. He will kill Mora then he will kill Joe. Joe will come straight ahead just like Ouma did and we will have the same result. He might just ko Joe because as we can see the boy is getting better under Manny. And I dont think that Joe will take the same punches that Ouma did. Taylor took Ouma out of his fight and made him fight his fight and he will do the same to Joe.

AND YES I THOUGHT TAYLOR BEAT WRIGHT I HAD IT 115 113
are you tripin on acid. :confused:
 

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For what it's worth:

Here is my two cents:

Rahman: under-achiever extraordinaire

Margarito: this guy sucks. No defense, no footwork, but has heavy hands. Some bad losses on his record.

Hatton: one dimensional "mini-John-Ruiz" (I'm preparing for Tommygunn's rebuttal -- I imagine he'll ban me for having slighted his hero...:) ) All heart, questionable skills.

Valuev: this guy is the worst champ (HW) in my opinion in the last 5-6 years. Right behind him is John Ruiz's pathetic reign....


Guys who should have done more (i.e.: waste of talent):
Lewis: skilled, but didn't do much when it counted the most
(should have rematched Klit, in my opinion)

Roy Jones: skilled but never fought the big fights when it mattered. (i.e.: Calzaghe, Darius M., etc) Beating Ruiz was a hands-down gimmee.

Floyd Mayweather: needs to fight better opposition at more meaningful times in their careers. Fighting Oscar helps his bottom line, nothing else.
 
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