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Just interesting however I disagree.

For years, Floyd Mayweather, Sr. has told the boxing world that he invented the defensive techniques being used by his son, Floyd Jr.

In an interview with the Mercury News, James "Lights Out" Toney, one of the best defensive fighters to ever step foot in a ring, disputed Mayweather's claim. Toney says that he invented the defensive moves being used by Floyd Jr.

"Everything Floyd does, he got from me," Toney said. "I've been doing this for years. I watched films and was trying these moves and I'm like, `Damn, this hurts. I'd go home and punch in the mirror every day. I'd go back in the gym the next day, try the same thing again and, bam, get hit in the body. One day, everything started coming."

Toney said he created his defensive techniques by watching tapes of legendary fighters such as Ray Robinson, Hogan "Kid" Bassey, Charlie Burley and Battling Siki.
 

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i somewhat agree, toney style is very similar to mayweather and he has been doing it alot longer than floyd. But since floyd is quikcer in upperbody movement and leg movement, he pulls it off a little better, although toney even at 200 plus pounds is one fast dude.
 

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PrettyBoyFloyd said:
Just interesting however I disagree.

For years, Floyd Mayweather, Sr. has told the boxing world that he invented the defensive techniques being used by his son, Floyd Jr.

In an interview with the Mercury News, James "Lights Out" Toney, one of the best defensive fighters to ever step foot in a ring, disputed Mayweather's claim. Toney says that he invented the defensive moves being used by Floyd Jr.

"Everything Floyd does, he got from me," Toney said. "I've been doing this for years. I watched films and was trying these moves and I'm like, `Damn, this hurts. I'd go home and punch in the mirror every day. I'd go back in the gym the next day, try the same thing again and, bam, get hit in the body. One day, everything started coming."

Toney said he created his defensive techniques by watching tapes of legendary fighters such as Ray Robinson, Hogan "Kid" Bassey, Charlie Burley and Battling Siki.
If you think about it they are very simular.
 

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tysonjones said:
i somewhat agree, toney style is very similar to mayweather and he has been doing it alot longer than floyd. But since floyd is quikcer in upperbody movement and leg movement, he pulls it off a little better, although toney even at 200 plus pounds is one fast dude.
I agree 100%
 

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ray robinson was the first guy i remember using the philly shell, toney and pbf copied him. :laugh:
 

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tysonjones said:
i just watched ray robinson fight bobo olson II, III and 4 and i never saw even a mirror image of that style.
try watching the la mota fights then, defence wasn't needed against booboo.

i have those fights with olson to.
 
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