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If they announced 2morrow they were organising a 4 way tournament between all champs at the moment, who do you think would come out on top?
My money would be on Valuev, what do you think?
 

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Les_bleus69 said:
If they announced 2morrow they were organising a 4 way tournament between all champs at the moment, who do you think would come out on top?
My money would be on Valuev, what do you think?
definatly valuev.

you should add a poll to this thread dude. :thumbsup:
 

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I think Wlad would. Valuev has been beating guys that are giving up 100lbs, at least Wlad won't be. Also Wlad is 6'6, so it would be a 6 inch difference which isn't very much at those heights. Valuev is slow, doesn't have very much power, he is also even more robotice than Wlad and his brother.
 

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bill1234 said:
I think Wlad would. Valuev has been beating guys that are giving up 100lbs, at least Wlad won't be. Also Wlad is 6'6, so it would be a 6 inch difference which isn't very much at those heights. Valuev is slow, doesn't have very much power, he is also even more robotice than Wlad and his brother.
the more i see of valuev the more he impresses me with his size and strengh. wlads main atributes are his reach, jab and right hand which he wouldn't be able to use as well against valuev, i think the giant would tag that fragile chin and ko him.
 

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tommygunn said:
the more i see of valuev the more he impresses me with his size and strengh. wlads main atributes are his reach, jab and right hand which he wouldn't be able to use as well against valuev, i think the giant would tag that fragile chin and ko him.
Wlad has big right hand, and all he would have to do is fire it at the giants gut. Then when Valuev drops his hand, boom. Or all Wlad would need to do is stick and move for the first 5 rounds, then Valuev would get tired and it would be easier for him to get hit and it would do more damage.
 

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bill1234 said:
Wlad has big right hand, and all he would have to do is fire it at the giants gut. Then when Valuev drops his hand, boom. Or all Wlad would need to do is stick and move for the first 5 rounds, then Valuev would get tired and it would be easier for him to get hit and it would do more damage.
wlads got the european amature style of boxing, he cant stick and move. he's robotic.
 

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tommygunn said:
wlads got the european amature style of boxing, he cant stick and move. he's robotic.
He can back up though, and thats all he would need to do.
 

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Wladimir Klitscho is where I would put my money.Anything can happen,but if he puts it all together,He is in my opinon the best of all the heavys.
 

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bill1234 said:
Wlad has big right hand, and all he would have to do is fire it at the giants gut. Then when Valuev drops his hand, boom. Or all Wlad would need to do is stick and move for the first 5 rounds, then Valuev would get tired and it would be easier for him to get hit and it would do more damage.

Bill have you seen Valuev fight?
He doesnt really tire much & has a cement block for a head.
 

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ERIK said:
Bill have you seen Valuev fight?
He doesnt really tire much & has a cement block for a head.
Yes Ive seen Valuev fight. I know he can take a punch, but he has never truly proven him self either.
 

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Has Valuev ever been knocked down, professionally? Wlad's a good fighter, but he has serious flaws. First of all, he gets tired rather quickly at times, punching himself out. See his loss against Ross Purrity.

YouTube - Wladimir Klitschko Vs Ross Puritty Part5

Puritty has 20 losses out of 53 fights, too. He lost to Brewster and Sanders, with Sanders being a definitive loss since he was really just completely destroyed by him. To Brewster I think it was also punching himself out, although I admit that fight looked very wrong. It seriously looked like he was drugged or something. His chin will be a major problem, since Valuev packs a heavy left jab that has knocked people down (barrett). I think Wlad will start out strong, go for the head and halfway into the fight he will be spent, totally tired. That's when Valuev will score a jab to the chin and Wlad will go down a few times.

My question is, has Wlad ever fought against someone taller than 6'6? Punching above your head wears you out MUCH faster than punching level with your head or punching down (and many of his opponents were shorter). And Valuev is quite a bit taller than Wlad. That's why I think stamina will be a problem for Wlad.
 

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Valuev doesn't have the best stamina either. Wlad has some of the best stamina for heavyweights out there right now. Valuev is nothing but a huge target. Wlad can't miss with his jab or right hand!!! All he has to do is work the body and he has it made.
 

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bill1234 said:
Valuev doesn't have the best stamina either. Wlad has some of the best stamina for heavyweights out there right now. Valuev is nothing but a huge target. Wlad can't miss with his jab or right hand!!! All he has to do is work the body and he has it made.
wlads stamina is crap, look at the purity fight he was out on his feet after 8 rounds. everytime ive seen vauev go 12 he's looked very fit.
 

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tommygunn said:
wlads stamina is crap, look at the purity fight he was out on his feet after 8 rounds. everytime ive seen vauev go 12 he's looked very fit.
Thats why Wlad lost his fight to Brewster,no gas.
That's the thing with Klitschko sometimes he appears fine.Thats why I said earlier if he gets it together he should win.
Has Valuev ever looked better then he did against Barret?:dunno: He has been 12rds with Ruiz and Donald,but just barely got by them.I think Wlad is a lot better fighter then both those guys.It's Wlads fight to win or lose.
 

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tommygunn said:
wlads stamina is crap, look at the purity fight he was out on his feet after 8 rounds. everytime ive seen vauev go 12 he's looked very fit.
Lets face it, all of the heavyweights out there right now wouldn't even be contenders in the 80's on back. The heavyweights are lazy today, the barely train, they have horrible stamina, and almost no skill.
 

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bill1234 said:
Lets face it, all of the heavyweights out there right now wouldn't even be contenders in the 80's on back. The heavyweights are lazy today, the barely train, they have horrible stamina, and almost no skill.
The stamina could be explained by the shorter fights. The fights are no longer 15 rounds, they are 10 or 12 rounds. In any case, Valuev really does not tire much at all. He managed to barely break a sweat in the Barret fight, whereas Barret was out of gas near the end, despite the fact that he is a much smaller and lighter heavy weight. We know that Valuev has good stamina, good head and powerful punch. He just has slow punches and poor combos, but you can't be great everywhere. Wlad has a powerful punch, questionable stamina and a bad chin. He makes up for those weaknesses with a quick punch and good combinations.

The way I see it, the longer the fight goes on, the less chance Wlad has to win. The giant gets better as the fight progresses whereas Wlad gets weaker and more tired.
 

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Valuev doesn't break a sweat because his hair soaks it up.:D Just because the fights have been shortened to 10 and 12 rounders doesn't mean that they should have worse stamina, it means it should be all the better. If they would get off their butt and train like they did in the 50's, I wouldn't have a problem with the division.
 

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I won't guess who would come out on top, but the title definately needs to be unified. Casual fans of boxing are dropping like flies because there isn't an undisputed Heavyweight champ. The average person only cares about the hw div, and they lose interest entirely when they find out that there are half a dozen champions.
 

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bill1234 said:
Valuev doesn't break a sweat because his hair soaks it up.:D Just because the fights have been shortened to 10 and 12 rounders doesn't mean that they should have worse stamina, it means it should be all the better. If they would get off their butt and train like they did in the 50's, I wouldn't have a problem with the division.
Well, I don't think I have ever seen Valuev tire to any serious degree, so I don't know what you mean. Less rounds means people like Valuev (good stamina) can train other skills like combinations and strength. Obviously, any fighter can wear himself out in 12 rounds, no matter how skilled. It is a matter of using up all of your stamina without going over, which is something that Wladimir sometimes fails to do (rans out of gas).
 
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