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ON FG they call me the yank....always liked the us fighters. I like Mayweather too, or liked what ever
A cruel bunch they are over there. :stew:

I still find it hard to believe that even a former fan of Floyd doesn't have him in the top 10.
 

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I'm the first one to dismiss Pac's wins at 135+ but you can't deny how great Pac has looked. Marquez looked like **** at 144. Pacquaio also would have destroyed Casamayor and Juan Diaz.
No doubt Manny has looked great, and I agree Manny would have destroyed Casamayor and Juan Diaz.

In my mind JMM beat Pacquaio in March of 08.

Pacquaio's move to 135 = David Diaz TKO 9

Marquez's move to 135 = Casamayor TKO 11; Diaz TKO 9.

Pacquaio's move to 147 = DLH TKO 8

Marquez's move to 147 (because Floyd did weigh in at 146) = UD Loss

And we know what Pacquaio did to Hatton.

Marquez lost to Floyd, looked horrible in doing so, but we are talking about Floyd Mayweather and an unknown weight class (for JMM) here. Floyd hasnt done yet enough to get him back to P4P #1. Hopkins and Mosley continue to be inactive, so they stay at 4, and 5.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Juan Manual Marquez
4. Shane Mosley
5. Bernard Hopkins

Thats just my take....
 

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A cruel bunch they are over there. :stew:

I still find it hard to believe that even a former fan of Floyd doesn't have him in the top 10.
You got to fight to get in there in my book.

So if ricardo lopez came back fighting a 80lb 40 yr old he will jump to the top ten aswell?

Lets see if Mayweather sticks around and fights the winner of Cotto-Pacman
 

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I dont understand why so many people are dropping JMM so far down their list. What has Hopkins and Mosley done to move them ahead of Marquez? Hopkins hasn't fought in over a year, and by the time Mosley gets back in the ring I'm sure it will be over a year for him too.

Marquez moved up and knocked out the best at 135, then moved up two more weightclasses and lost to Floyd Mayweather. Most of us know Marquez beat Pacquico, so why is he falling so fast on everyones P4P lists? Hopkins and Mosley have done nothing to justify them moving ahead of Marquez, I dont care what happaned against Floyd.
Please educate me... When did marquez beat Pacman?
 

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Please educate me... When did marquez beat Pacman?
May 8, 2004 and March 15, 2008. Only an idiot who can't score or likes sucking on Pacquiao's cock would score them 2 fights for Pac. They were obvious Marquez wins. And this coming from the forums most unbiased poster
 

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