Joey Maxin had a lot of pro fights, and won most of his fights.tommygunn said:orlando trotter. 11-7-1.
booker beckworth. 26-8
charley roth. 17-29
altus allen. 19-9-1
clarence brown. 20-23-3
curtis sheppard 52-33.
just some of the guys records who beat maxim.
I was impressed by Roy Jones Jr. and Spinks in their prime. But maybe not quite as much you.tommygunn said:i wouldn't consider him thee best or in the top 5 lightheavyweights because he never had the concistancy of a spinks or roy jones.
I know all about the excuses Sugar Ray Robinson and his people gave for losing.tommygunn said:maxims win against robinson looks very good on paper but when you read into it that was one of the hottest nights of the year and sugar ray collapsed in his corner suffering from heat prostration.
yeah jcc i thought your reply would be something along the lines of that.JCC said:I was impressed by Roy Jones Jr. and Spinks in their prime. But maybe not quite as much you.
Yeah, I heard the about the excuses Robinson and his people gave for losing.
But hey, Joey Maxin didn't have any air conditioning in his corner either.
Yeah, I saw it!tommygunn said:yeah jcc i thought your reply would be something along the lines of that.
have you seen the fight jcc?
if you have you'd obviously have seen ray colapse in his corner at the end of the round.
Sounds like a great fight tape.tommygunn said:i have this fight on a robinson dvd. its a subscrition called deAgostini's boxers. it has ray's fight with olson which was just before the maxim fight and it also has his battles with basilio.
well if you saw it jcc do you personaly think that maxim was a worthy winner? i tend to think you need to land punches in a fight to win it. but maxim has the w and he was standing at the end so.........JCC said:Yeah, I saw it!
The last three rounds of the Maxin-Robinson fight can be seen now at ... youtube.
Sounds like a great fight tape.
Suppose if it had been the other way around.tommygunn said:well if you saw it jcc do you personaly think that maxim was a worthy winner?
i tend to think you need to land punches in a fight to win it.
but maxim has the w and he was standing at the end so.........
Your right!tommygunn said:robinson won the battle but maxim won the war.
At middleweight Robinson, LaMatta, Basilio, Haggler, and Monzon were king, and at Lightheavy Foster, Conn, Moore, Charles, and Torres were some of the greats. I'm not saying that Jones isn't in the top 10, I'm just saying that he's not the greatest or top 3 in either.tysonjones said:Roy jones jr was at his peak. you couldnt match that speed and power. Ok maybe not lightheavyweight but definently middle weight, if he would of stayed there, we wouldnt even know who bernard hopkins was.
Now that is just naieve. Moore was a much better lightheavyweight.tommygunn said:apart from delahoya roy has beaten more champs and former champs than any fighter in history. and made them all look ordinary doing so. roys the best lightheavy weight in history and it aint even close.
a mate of mine from another board today was telling me that on a rescent poll on fightnews it was asking who was the best fighter of b-hop and roy. roy won it by an absolute landslide.
the best allround fighter in history bar none!!!