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I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens? :dunno: :dunno:
 

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I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens? :dunno: :dunno:
Samuel Peter is my main heavyweight nowadays... he will win... and we'll have a new era in heavyweight boxing... the era of "The Nigerian Nightmare" Samuel Peter... and then Oleg Maskaev... Wlad... whoever it is and all of those overrated whatever's who were nobodies throughout the 90s until all of the real big stars retired... should retire!:mad:
 

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I'm guessing the same thing that happened when they met previously. Wlad will get rocked and start clinching. I don't maybe if he can keep at a distance Wlad can win.
 

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sam peter is a beter boxer since losing his first fight against wlad, if i remember correctly wlad was down 3 times in this fight but managed to win by about 2 or 3 rounds. id say now its a pick-um id slightly favour peter if thet were to fight again.
 

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With the way Peter trains now and the fact that his conditioning is so much better now. With the way he is bringing his all to his fights now and the fact that he has come a long way with his boxing skills in the past year. There is no way Klitschko or anyone else can beat his. Im looking forward to him being the next undisputed heavy weight champ by mid 2008. And this is comming from a James Toney fan.
 

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With the way Peter trains now and the fact that his conditioning is so much better now. With the way he is bringing his all to his fights now and the fact that he has come a long way with his boxing skills in the past year. There is no way Klitschko or anyone else can beat his. Im looking forward to him being the next undisputed heavy weight champ by mid 2008. And this is comming from a James Toney fan.
What do you think of James Toney's steroid use, trash-talking, the whole issue of whether or not he should call it a day AND why the hell he is competing in the heavyweight division in the first place? :cool:
 

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Well Toney didnt use performance enhancing drugs The meds that he took to repair his shoulder had a steroid in it. And his trash talking is just him. That makes him James Toney. I enjoy it.And I dont think he should call it quits. He still won the frist fight with Peter in my eyes and he will fight again in the heavy weight division.
 

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Peter is very one dimensional and Toney was way past his prime and is far from a good heavyweight, if Wlad had any kind of chin he would beat Peter hands down, that being said if Wlad's stamina keeps improving he could run and hide for quite awhile making Peter desperate and setting up a big right hand that may end the night. The heavyweight division has no real dominant fighters at the moment its too bad Ike Ibeabuche flipped out because he would of dominated theis crop of heavyweights and in my opinion would of had Lennox out in 6 rounds.
 

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Peter is very one dimensional and Toney was way past his prime and is far from a good heavyweight, if Wlad had any kind of chin he would beat Peter hands down, that being said if Wlad's stamina keeps improving he could run and hide for quite awhile making Peter desperate and setting up a big right hand that may end the night. The heavyweight division has no real dominant fighters at the moment its too bad Ike Ibeabuche flipped out because he would of dominated theis crop of heavyweights and in my opinion would of had Lennox out in 6 rounds.
this is funny a couple of uy's and myself have just been talking of ike ibeabuche on another forum, ill stick to what i said there no way this mini-mike beats lewis, he was in the same mould as grant and briggs and we seen what happened to these guy's.
 

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I dunno had much more speed than grant or Briggs and he had a chin Tua hit him with some vicious shots and din't faze him, he also had the speed to KO Byrd in his prime not so easy to do as some heavyweights found out, my problem with Lewis was which guy shows up did he train, was he motivated all the talent in the world but no real fire. Would of been a great fight I think, and obviously a huge step up for Ike. Lewis had some issues with guys who had decent chins and speed, an old Holeyfield comes to mind, Oliver Mccall etc...have to say Ike had it over Oliver.
 

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Tommygunn you took the words right out of my mouth.
 

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I dunno had much more speed than grant or Briggs and he had a chin Tua hit him with some vicious shots and din't faze him, he also had the speed to KO Byrd in his prime not so easy to do as some heavyweights found out, my problem with Lewis was which guy shows up did he train, was he motivated all the talent in the world but no real fire. Would of been a great fight I think, and obviously a huge step up for Ike. Lewis had some issues with guys who had decent chins and speed, an old Holeyfield comes to mind, Oliver Mccall etc...have to say Ike had it over Oliver.
these are good points your making but i think lewis along with bill's hero holmes are the 2 most underated hw ever, lewis had more than one way to beat ike infact he could have beaten him in 3 or 4 way's. i will say though ike could have been dangerous early if lewis decided to attack but i think we'd have seen a lewis come out and use that potent jab of his much the way he did against tua.
 

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I totally agree with Holmes being underrated amazing jab, would of loved to of seen Holmes VS Foreman in their primes, whats sad is we have to look back to find a true Heavyweight star hard to see who will be the heir apparent today
 

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i think the obvious 2 are definatly the names listed above. i think its going to be a big year for audley harrison who has the tool's to be champ but seem's to lack the heart. there's also a young english guy fighting at cruiser ive followed from his amature day's going by the name of david haye, this kid has the lot.
 

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Harrison's time has to be now he is not the youngest guy, I am intrigued by the sheer size of Valuev, the man is a monster not a great talent but a real physical presence
 

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Harrison's time has to be now he is not the youngest guy, I am intrigued by the sheer size of Valuev, the man is a monster not a great talent but a real physical presence
valuev had a sd with ruiz that put me right off this guy. :laugh:
 

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ya but Ruiz is awful to look good against the guy is an octopus, he should of been a wrestler instead of a boxer, he looked ok against Beck after a shakey start, like to see how he would do against someone a bit better maybe Rahman or someone of that caliber
 

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roy jones and tua had no probs looking good against ruiz the hugmister but valuev for hiis size seems to throw a lot of arm punches, lets see his chin tested against one of these big punchers.
 

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I want to see him fight Peter.
 
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