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for me all rocky movies....
what is ur best boxing movie ever???
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Body and Soul
The John Garfield classic Body and Soul
The John Garfield classic Body and Soul
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Rocky And That New One Called Cinderella Man
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Don't want to sound soft, but Million Dollar Baby was hard to beat.
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favorite fight films
Cinderella Man has the best fight sequence in any boxing movie, the fight between Baer and Braddock is the most exciting I've seen. First one fighter, than another seems unbeatable. Amidst all of the noise and sound effects, you feel like you're really there.
The Setup from 1949 is also great. It's star is Robert Ryan, a former amateur boxing champion. There is the common device of a boxer told to take a dive for the mob. But Ryan's performance as an aging pug who refuses to lose and the atmosphere of black and white gritty despair is outstanding. Catch it on TV or video.
A film from this year, Annapolis, about the boxing tournament at the Naval
Academy, is worth seeing. That's for the fight scenes, not the mostly predictable and tired story line.
The following two movies I call fight films because they are not boxing movies in the usual sense.
One is Hard Times, starring Charles Bronson as a professional underground bare-knuckled boxer in the 1930s Depression era. It has a tremendous fistfight in it's dramatic climax. Bronson was in his early fifties when he made the movie and must have been in superlative shape to handle a role of this sort.
About the other one you may strongly disagree. It is Fight Club. Yes, most of
the movie is not about actual fighting. But there has never been a movie made like Fight Club. The parts about the secret no-holds barred fight group
show good but too short fights.
Cinderella Man has the best fight sequence in any boxing movie, the fight between Baer and Braddock is the most exciting I've seen. First one fighter, than another seems unbeatable. Amidst all of the noise and sound effects, you feel like you're really there.
The Setup from 1949 is also great. It's star is Robert Ryan, a former amateur boxing champion. There is the common device of a boxer told to take a dive for the mob. But Ryan's performance as an aging pug who refuses to lose and the atmosphere of black and white gritty despair is outstanding. Catch it on TV or video.
A film from this year, Annapolis, about the boxing tournament at the Naval
Academy, is worth seeing. That's for the fight scenes, not the mostly predictable and tired story line.
The following two movies I call fight films because they are not boxing movies in the usual sense.
One is Hard Times, starring Charles Bronson as a professional underground bare-knuckled boxer in the 1930s Depression era. It has a tremendous fistfight in it's dramatic climax. Bronson was in his early fifties when he made the movie and must have been in superlative shape to handle a role of this sort.
About the other one you may strongly disagree. It is Fight Club. Yes, most of
the movie is not about actual fighting. But there has never been a movie made like Fight Club. The parts about the secret no-holds barred fight group
show good but too short fights.
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Best boxing movie?
I liked "Somebody Up There Likes Me". Great acting via Paul Newman and they didn't try to make an actor look like an accomplished boxer. The fight scenes were up close and rather blurred as I remember. The failure of most boxing movies is that they take an actor like Stallone, who had never boxed, and try to make him and his actor opponents look like boxers. This sport takes years to learn and their incompetence is so obvious. It's like making a ski movie and allowing the star to snow plow down a hill, falling frequently, and expecting the audience to believe he's a great skier.
I also liked "The Raging Bull" for many of the same reasons--except that any of these stage fights would have been stopped immediately if one fighter was taking that much unanswered punishment.
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I liked "Somebody Up There Likes Me". Great acting via Paul Newman and they didn't try to make an actor look like an accomplished boxer. The fight scenes were up close and rather blurred as I remember. The failure of most boxing movies is that they take an actor like Stallone, who had never boxed, and try to make him and his actor opponents look like boxers. This sport takes years to learn and their incompetence is so obvious. It's like making a ski movie and allowing the star to snow plow down a hill, falling frequently, and expecting the audience to believe he's a great skier.
I also liked "The Raging Bull" for many of the same reasons--except that any of these stage fights would have been stopped immediately if one fighter was taking that much unanswered punishment.
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about best boxing movies
Terry Painter, I agree that Raging Bull is one of the finest fight films made.
Robert DeNiro was great as Jake LaMotta. He showed his sullen temper and
ruthlessness. DeNiro sparred with LaMotta to prepare for the role. The actor
looked like he had developed a hard, muscular physique for the part. That is why I was disappointed when I learned that in the later scenes, of the retired and broke LaMotta, DeNiro gained a great deal of weight. No acting role is worth that much of a risk to health. But the filmmakers were right to make the movie in black and white.
I liked the first Rocky, with it's sense of humor, the sequels were predictable
and like self-parodies. I can't imagine why they would want to make another one.
Nicholas Cage will star in Dance, about real-life ex-boxer Billy Roth. He was
for forty-four years a boxing coach in a prison.
Terry Painter, I agree that Raging Bull is one of the finest fight films made.
Robert DeNiro was great as Jake LaMotta. He showed his sullen temper and
ruthlessness. DeNiro sparred with LaMotta to prepare for the role. The actor
looked like he had developed a hard, muscular physique for the part. That is why I was disappointed when I learned that in the later scenes, of the retired and broke LaMotta, DeNiro gained a great deal of weight. No acting role is worth that much of a risk to health. But the filmmakers were right to make the movie in black and white.
I liked the first Rocky, with it's sense of humor, the sequels were predictable
and like self-parodies. I can't imagine why they would want to make another one.
Nicholas Cage will star in Dance, about real-life ex-boxer Billy Roth. He was
for forty-four years a boxing coach in a prison.
Boxing movies and rocky
OK here is why I hated the Rocky movies:
The fight scenes were so fake it was nutsy. Nobody walks into punches like that guy did. Hollywood couldn't make a good boxng movie out of a Rocky series if they had to. Also, they overdid the 'impact shots' of 'rocky's' face being distorted after every blow. There was no real boxing on display there, and it gave a false impression of boxng to someone who might have been thinking of joining a club and actually training.
Tell me, if you are going to fight a main event at say 7 p.m., why then are you getting up at 5 am and screwing up your body clock?? You will be falling asleep between the 8th and 9th rounds.
Lastly, the only raw eggs I ever ate are in the Pineapple juice/soy protein powder/vanilla/with a shot of milk. Add a quarter of a banana to that and you have a super good energy drink. ONE egg, thanks... and use the beater, etc
Raging Bull was decent, so was Monkey on my back, a movie about Benny Leonard who became addicted to morphine after a WW2 injury. The rest aren't worth watching; IMNSHOpinion.
They ought to make a movie of Floyd Patterson's life and career. Trouble is, he lived a clean life; not conducive to the hollywood thing
pollux said:
OK here is why I hated the Rocky movies:
The fight scenes were so fake it was nutsy. Nobody walks into punches like that guy did. Hollywood couldn't make a good boxng movie out of a Rocky series if they had to. Also, they overdid the 'impact shots' of 'rocky's' face being distorted after every blow. There was no real boxing on display there, and it gave a false impression of boxng to someone who might have been thinking of joining a club and actually training.
Tell me, if you are going to fight a main event at say 7 p.m., why then are you getting up at 5 am and screwing up your body clock?? You will be falling asleep between the 8th and 9th rounds.
Lastly, the only raw eggs I ever ate are in the Pineapple juice/soy protein powder/vanilla/with a shot of milk. Add a quarter of a banana to that and you have a super good energy drink. ONE egg, thanks... and use the beater, etc
Raging Bull was decent, so was Monkey on my back, a movie about Benny Leonard who became addicted to morphine after a WW2 injury. The rest aren't worth watching; IMNSHOpinion.
They ought to make a movie of Floyd Patterson's life and career. Trouble is, he lived a clean life; not conducive to the hollywood thing
good boxing movies and a stupid ad
Somebody Up There Likes Me has been included in this discussion and rightly so. It's not my favorite fight film. But it is more of a story about it's main character and how he overcomes adversity. Paul Newman did a great job showing the sensitive side of the tough pug, Graziano. James Dean had been considered for the role and might have done well as the misfit. But he would have had to put some muscle on his thin frame.
Another film with good character studies is the straight-to-video Fighting
Tommy Riley. The movie has good fight scenes but is mainly about the relationship between the young fighter, Riley, and his trainer.
When I saw Fat City, I was impressed by it's pessimistic view of boxing and lack of a hero wins the title and gets the girl ending. Stacy Keach was memorable as the washed up boxer trying to make a return who sees the less
talented youngster, played by Jeff Bridges, rise.
Another film, not mentioned, is from 1942. That's Gentleman Jim in which Errol Flynn was just right as the cocky young challenger, James J. Corbett who takes on the Boston Strong Boy, John L. Sullivan. Ward Bond plays the loud braggart Sullivan, humbled by Corbett. Flynn had been a boxing teacher
and once, at a Hollywood party, settled some angry words with fisticuffs against the film director John Huston. When he was twenty-one, Huston had been the amateur lightweight champion of California. Like gentlemen, they took their dispute out to a patio where they "boxed by the moonlight" as Huston said. I don't know if there was a winner, but according to Huston one of them got a broken nose, the other an injured rib.
Although it's not in this category, the Rocky discussion reminded me of a ridiculous television commercial I saw several years ago. It was for a softdrink, the name of which I can't recall. In it are two claymation figures, of
Rocky Balboa and his trainer during a match. In between rounds, Rocky gulps some of the product being advertised. As anyone with even a slight knowledge of boxing should know, a fighter should never swallow any liquid in between rounds. A punch to the midsection will make him heave. If Sylvester Stallone had anything to do with this nonsense, he should be ashamed of himself.
Somebody Up There Likes Me has been included in this discussion and rightly so. It's not my favorite fight film. But it is more of a story about it's main character and how he overcomes adversity. Paul Newman did a great job showing the sensitive side of the tough pug, Graziano. James Dean had been considered for the role and might have done well as the misfit. But he would have had to put some muscle on his thin frame.
Another film with good character studies is the straight-to-video Fighting
Tommy Riley. The movie has good fight scenes but is mainly about the relationship between the young fighter, Riley, and his trainer.
When I saw Fat City, I was impressed by it's pessimistic view of boxing and lack of a hero wins the title and gets the girl ending. Stacy Keach was memorable as the washed up boxer trying to make a return who sees the less
talented youngster, played by Jeff Bridges, rise.
Another film, not mentioned, is from 1942. That's Gentleman Jim in which Errol Flynn was just right as the cocky young challenger, James J. Corbett who takes on the Boston Strong Boy, John L. Sullivan. Ward Bond plays the loud braggart Sullivan, humbled by Corbett. Flynn had been a boxing teacher
and once, at a Hollywood party, settled some angry words with fisticuffs against the film director John Huston. When he was twenty-one, Huston had been the amateur lightweight champion of California. Like gentlemen, they took their dispute out to a patio where they "boxed by the moonlight" as Huston said. I don't know if there was a winner, but according to Huston one of them got a broken nose, the other an injured rib.
Although it's not in this category, the Rocky discussion reminded me of a ridiculous television commercial I saw several years ago. It was for a softdrink, the name of which I can't recall. In it are two claymation figures, of
Rocky Balboa and his trainer during a match. In between rounds, Rocky gulps some of the product being advertised. As anyone with even a slight knowledge of boxing should know, a fighter should never swallow any liquid in between rounds. A punch to the midsection will make him heave. If Sylvester Stallone had anything to do with this nonsense, he should be ashamed of himself.
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Okay, I would have to agree with what seems like a majority of the people here and say Rocky as well, especially the one with Ivan Drago. I love the way he trains in that one. I would have to add a comment though, that I didn't enjoy Rocky V as well as the others.
The Ring, 1952
You probably never heard of this one, it came out in 1952, an it star's Rita Moreno, Jack Elam and Gerald Mohr. But the main character in the movie is played by Lalo Rios, he played a young boxer that is using boxing to get out of the barrios of E.L.A , you also have Art Aragon and Keeny Teran in small parts.
It's a low buget movie, but its worth watching.
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You probably never heard of this one, it came out in 1952, an it star's Rita Moreno, Jack Elam and Gerald Mohr. But the main character in the movie is played by Lalo Rios, he played a young boxer that is using boxing to get out of the barrios of E.L.A , you also have Art Aragon and Keeny Teran in small parts.
It's a low buget movie, but its worth watching.
Frank B.
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Can't Beat These Actors
Ever heard of Million Dollar Baby? Its a 4 star movie starring Clint Eastwood AND Morgan Freeman. In the middle of training myself, this movie was shot as real as a boxing movie can be made. It made the simple point that life sucks, and then you die. :cheeky4:
Ever heard of Million Dollar Baby? Its a 4 star movie starring Clint Eastwood AND Morgan Freeman. In the middle of training myself, this movie was shot as real as a boxing movie can be made. It made the simple point that life sucks, and then you die. :cheeky4:
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Rocky is way to fake and ridicoulous to be considered great... Cinderella Man is by far the best boxing Movie i have seen yet... Million Dollar Baby was o.k but it was a girl boxing so it was a little different and weird...
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