Billy Conn.
I was wrong, Sugar Ray Robinson DID have 85 fights as an amateur. What threw me off is the fact that he had 69 KOs.I have done a lot of research on how many amateur bouts that Rocky Marciano had. They have gotten as much fight information as they could and it turns out that Rocky Marciano has lost a bout before. His Amateur record was 11-3.
And I think that this is a common misconseption, but I think that Sugar Ray Robinson had been undefeated in 89 bouts.
And I have heard Muhammad Ali say this exact phrase "I've had 220 Amateur fights, 22 professional fights, and I am as pretty as a girl." maybe I am off by a few words, but not by the numbers.
Wow. That's amazing.Amateur Boxing before turning Pro is very good for a boxer. The more Amateur Boxing Bouts... the better.
This theory has been proven wrong on a few occasions. Hasim Rahman had only 7 Amateur Bouts. George Foreman had 18. James Toney had 36. Rocky Marciano and Archie Moore are believed to not have had many.
While others like Sugar Ray Robinson had 85 (UNDEFEATED), Muhammad Ali 108, and Oscar De La Hoya... WELL OVER 200... there are two boxers that I know of who had ZERO... NOUGHT... NONE... NO AMATEUR BOUTS AT ALL WHATSOEVER!!!
One of them I hate and despise... the other I truly admire. They are Anthony Mundine and Dwight Muhammad Qawi. Mundine went straight from Rugby League to Pro Boxing... his Dad was a Boxing Legend (IN AUSTRALIA) and despite the athletic, fitness, and great sporting background that Mundine had... he decided... based upon that... not to have any Amateur Bouts. He is doing rather well for himself... but once he gets into some of the REAL BOXERS on the world scene... he'll be DEAD MEAT... but before this turns into another one of my "HATE MUNDINE THREADS"... let's get onto another guy that I consider a LEGEND!
Dwight Muhammad Qawi.
Originally Dwight Braxton, Dwight Muhammad Qawi went from Prison to Pro Boxing at the relatively late age of 26. He boxed a lot in Prison... but had no Amateur Bouts at all whatsoever. He went on to have a remarkable career and was one tough cookie. He even proved that... although only 5'6"-5'7" tall... and rather stocky and muscular for a Light Heavyweight... he had stamina... and could go the distance... and was great to watch!
Dwight Muhammad Qawi is now in the International Boxing Hall of Fame and was a former World Light Heavyweight and World Cruiserweight Champion.
Both of these guys had NO AMATEUR EXPERIENCE... and yet still had a lot of success (I put Dwight Muhammad Qawi above Anthony Mundine a hell of a lot though... mark my words)... but... were there... or are there currently... any other Boxers of note who had NO AMATEUR EXPERIENCE and turned Pro? Thank You For Reading! :thumbsup:
.....You need to look into that again.I have never heard of Joe Louis having any amateur fights.
Back in the old days there were a lot of boxers that had no Amateur background.
Recently, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. claims to have no Amateur experience.
He had two amateur fightsBack in the old days there were a lot of boxers that had no Amateur background.
Recently, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. claims to have no Amateur experience.