[Sonny Liston]

I usually save something like this for the "YOU HAVE TO PICK ONE BOXING GAME THREAD" which I've placed in The Boxing History and Results Section! I started it and it's been going strong for quite some time now... it's something that I'm very proud of! However... concerning The Middlweight Boxing Scene at the moment... these two are "IT"... I've written off Jermain Taylor and Edison Miranda (most of you though they were overrated anyway) and reckon a bout between King and Ghost would be really something! I've noticed that all of Abraham's matches bar one have been in Germany... What's up with that? Anyways... Is there any chance that these two will comes to blows soon and we'll see an Undisputed Middleweight Champion Of The World? Where do you think the fight should take place? Who would win???

 

[Megarodon]

Pavlik would put him to sleep whenever they meet. Abraham looks good against bums like Ayala and the ones he been facing, but he didnt look good against Miranda, against a more skilled guy like Pavlik he wouldnt last..

 

[jroc81]

Pavlik would crush Abraham if they ever fight. I cant see Abraham making it 6 rounds with Pavlik.

 

[Rotten Apple]

I think people are selling Abraham short. He\'s a good fighter. I think he would give Pavlik a good fight. But Pavlik still would win. By late stoppage I think.

 

[TommyGunn]

I wouldn't bet on anyone to stop AA, he fought against Miranda with a broken jaw since the 3rd round of there fight and took some heavy bombs.

His chin is granite and he has a lot of heart.

The fight would be close id say.

 

[RingDocter]

^So you'd pick AA to win?

I'd pick Kelly Pavlik to stop Abraham at this point.

 

[TommyGunn]

^So you'd pick AA to win?

I'd pick Kelly Pavlik to stop Abraham at this point.

No, i think it'd be close, if i was to pick id go with Pavlik by close UD.

Calzaghe ices Pavlik before AA gets him anyway.

 

[RingDocter]

No, i think it'd be close, if i was to pick id go with Pavlik by close UD.

Calzaghe ices Pavlik before AA gets him anyway.

This quote found on another thread:

Pavlik is either going to win his fights against the top guys by brutal KO or lose them that way, thats why i like him, he's damn exciting to watch.

 

[TommyGunn]

This quote found on another thread:

Doc, your reaching and its sad and pathetic......

I think everyone except you guessed i didn't literaly mean every other fight in his career.

I said against the top guys, the top guys are RJ, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Winky, Kessler, Tarver.

AA is just a good fighter with a granite chin but not proved he belongs with them yet.

Instead of just trying to make me look bad why dont you answer my last post in the Witter thread,,,,,Or have you blown your load?

 

[RingDocter]

Im not trying to make you look bad. I just want you to realize that you have a very hard time agreeing with yourself.

 

[SugarShane]

Abraham stands no shot. He's perfect for Pavlik. He stands still with his gloves up in the Winky stance. Pavlik would just bomb right through that all night long. Also, Abraham wouldn't be fighting in his back yard with the terrible music, announcers, and judges. He'd get smashed.

 

[TommyGunn]

Im not trying to make you look bad. I just want you to realize that you have a very hard time agreeing with yourself.

Because i said Pavlik either wins his fights at elite level by ko or loses them that way.

*yawnz*

 

[TysonJones]

This is a mismatch, pavlik will rebreak his arm. Im hearing rumors are miranda vs abraham II on june 21th though. IN THE US!!

 

[Megarodon]

If thats the U.S debut Abraham is planning to make hes in for a big risk.

 

[RingDocter]

This is a mismatch, pavlik will rebreak his arm. Im hearing rumors are miranda vs abraham II on june 21th though. IN THE US!!

See, now that's some good news if it's true.

 

[RingDocter]

Because i said Pavlik either wins his fights at elite level by ko or loses them that way.

*yawnz*

Sorry, I just misunderstood then. I thought there was a difference between "top" level and "elite" level. My error.

 

[TommyGunn]

Sorry, I just misunderstood then. I thought there was a difference between "top" level and "elite" level. My error.

Dont be to hard on yourself.

 

[LeedsLad]

How can Miranda-Abraham rematch happen now that Miranda has left 160lbs?

 

[SugarShane]

Good question, Tom. And why should Miranda get a title shot at middleweight?

 

[RingDocter]

How can Miranda-Abraham rematch happen now that Miranda has left 160lbs?

I imagine Abraham would have to go up in weight or fight at a catch-weight. It'd be a decent move because he stands no chance at gaining supremacy at 160lbs as long as Pavlik stays.