[TommyGunn]

just a bit of fun guy's to bring in the new year.

happy holidays everybody.

by the way nobody can vote for thereself. :thumbsup:

 

[TommyGunn]

nobody be offended if ive missed any names because its 10 options only on a poll. but if you vote other please post your choice in the thread. :thumbsup:

 

[Captainobvious]

Interesting post. At first I thought it said best "boxer" of 2006, and then I saw my name, and I was like...wtf? LOL

I voted for TedSares because I think he posts not only some interesting stories, but hes also a great writer. Thanks for all the contributions Ted!

 

[Sonny Liston]

Bill

One of the most intelligent people I have ever met on the Internet!!!

 

[Captainobvious]

Bill

One of the most intelligent people I have ever met on the Internet!!!

Bill was also right up there on my list. I continue to be surprised at the boxing knowledge he posesses, and its a real achievement considering his age. Thumbs up to Bill :thumbsup:

 

[TommyGunn]

i totaly agree with both you guy's, but i gave my vote to ted because of of his excelent stories.

 

[TommyGunn]

if you vote other can you please state who you vote for.

thanxs guy's and gal's. :thumbsup:

 

[JCC]

If I had to pick the best poster, which in the end I did. I had to put Bill on top, and the reason I did was because the kid is a young fighter, and I'm an ex-fighter, and I always give favor to young fighters, and reading his posts I can see he's learning and has learned a lot. Plus I know he's got to be a tough kid. Of course, he is or he wouldn't be boxing and working out at Larry Holmes gym, and he's been working out there for over a year now. He would have already quit by now if he was a wussie, and I like tough guys. Not only that but I think he could probably whip any body in the house except for me of course.

 

[TommyGunn]

i think everyone respects bill on this forum for one so young his knowledge of heavyweight history is remarkable, i picked ted because every post he makes is well writen and full of facts, sometimes even on fighters who nobody has heard of. a true historian is ted.

 

[The Auctioneer]

I voted for Ted.I loved his writing style. He also is old school and I enjoyed his nostalgic pieces.A close second was the back and forth between JCC and Hhascup.Each had very impassioned posts relating how they felt.
I hope everyone has a safe and great new year.

 

[Sonny Liston]

No votes for me so far... I can understand that... it's OK!

 

[JCC]

... the back and forth between JCC and Hhascup. Each had very impassioned posts relating how they felt.

Your referring to Henry's belief that Muhummed Ali could have beaten Rocky Marciano. Yeah, it was a very impassionate debate wasn't it.

 

[The Auctioneer]

Yes, I thought both of you pleaded your case well.I was swaying back and forth after each one, and I have decided not to go either way as the result, Because of you my Ali vs. Marciano is now a draw:dunno: happy new year:laugh:

 

[JCC]

Yes, I thought both of you pleaded your case well.I was swaying back and forth after each one, and I have decided not to go either way as the result, Because of you my Ali vs. Marciano is now a draw:dunno: happy new year:laugh:

LOL ....

Well, Henry's a good old boy, and I like Henry. But I fear that he may have fallen into this trend that came to subcribe to Muhummed Ali's SELF-MADE CLAIM of being the "Greatest," much out of nostaligia or even pity for the shell of Ali, we see now. If Ali in his prime could have fought Rocky Marciano in his prime. We do know that its not as if Ali could not be hit with a punch, and we do know that Marciano hit hard. I mean VERY hard.

We also do know that when Ali was in his prime he was almost knocked out by Henry Cooper who was a good fighter, but at best a club fighter. Well, Rocky Marciano was no Henry Copper, and Marciano could punch hard, and he could punch hard with either hand, he could punch VERY hard. In a fight with Marciano, I would predict that Ali would evently get caught on the ropes and would get knocked out by Marciano.

Happy New Year to you also and to all.

 

[hhascup]

LOL ....

Well, Henry's is a good old boy, and I like Henry. But I fear that he may have fallen into this trend that came to subcribe to Muhummed Ali's SELF-MADE CLAIM of being the "Greatest," much out of nostaligia or even pity for the shell of Ali, we see now.

If Ali in his prime could have fought Rocky Marciano in his prime, we do know that its not as if Ali was boxer who could not be hit with a punch, and we do know that Marciano hit hard. I mean VERY hard.

We also do know that when Ali was in his prime he was almost knocked out by Henry Cooper who was a good fighter, but at best a club fighter.

Well, Rocky Marciano was no Henry Copper, and Marciano could punch hard, I mean VERY hard.

In a fight with Marciano, I would predict that Ali would evently get caught on the ropes and would be knocked out by Marciano.

Thanks for the comments JC, I feel the same way about you.

BUT, Ali was only 21 when he fought Cooper (not Copper) and Ali fought plenty of guys that were as hard as a hitter, if not harder, then Rocky and they couldn't put him away.

It's a known fact that Shavers was the hardest hitter of all times, it's his chin wasn't that good. Next would be Foreman and some of the other would be Frazier, Lyle, Liston, Cleveland Williams, Mac Foster, I could go on and on.

Again, who did Rocky fight that had a better punch then any of these guys. Louis, he was passed his prime, Walcott, Moore. I know Moore had the most knockouts but he also had 220 fights.

I would have LOVED to see Rocky go against the opponents that Ali did and I would LOVE to see Ali go against the Opponents that Rocky did.

Something tells me that Ali would do much better against Rocky's opponents then Rocky would do against Ali's.

 

[JCC]

Hey, Henry, I've already heard all the old excuses used by Rocky Marciano critics to knock him. I've also heard your excuses for the fights Muhummed Ali lost. But I don't have to make any excuses for Marciano because he refused to lose and won all his fights.

 

[hhascup]

I don't have to make any excuses for Marciano because he refused and won all his fights.

Yes, I agree, BUT he never went against Ali or any of the top Opponents that Ali beat, such as:
1. George Foreman
2. Joe Frazier (3)
3. Sonny Liston (2)
4. Ken Norton (3)
5. Floyd Patterson (2)
6. Jerry Quarry (2)
7. Oscar Bonavena
8. Jimmy Ellis
9. Zora Folley
10. Ernie Terrell
11. George Chuvalo (2)
12. Ron Lyle
13. Earnie Shavers
14. Joe Bugner
15. Bob Foster
16. Mac Foster
17. Karl Mildenberger

Again, you CAN NOT just go by someones record. BUT then again, Rocky is the only one you do rate just by his record.

Here's some others that have retired unbeaten:

1. Marciano
2. Jack Mcauliffe
3. Jimmy Barry
4. Lazlo Papp
5. Ricardo Lopez
6. Terry Marsh
7. Ji-Won Kim
8. Sitbangprachan (1990-2000)
9. Jemal Hinton
10.Rickey Womack (defeated Holyfield 3 times in the amateurs)
11.Samson Dutch Boy Gym (43-0-0 36 ko's)

I have gone on several other web sites recently and a lot of them don't even put Rocky into the Top 10 All-Times. I then defead him, as I still think, because of his record, deserves to be in the Top 10 All-Times.

 

[TommyGunn]

marciano would not have got near ali, thats the ali that beat liston in 63. he would not have knocked ali out either cmon ali fought noirton with a broken jaw for 12 rounds. if any you have ever broke your jaw you'll know what i mean, foreman would have beat the rock so would liston so would tyson.

 

[The Auctioneer]

I was noy trying to fan the flames.....

 

[TommyGunn]

I was noy trying to fan the flames.....

:laugh: cvool bro, this discusion was going when i joined. me and bill had a good old ding dong about it. :cheeky4:

ali #1.