Whos better, Cotto or Hatton........
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better oposition, better chin, more heart.AUDI99 said:
your way wide of the mark there, cottos best opponent is zab, hattons is kostya, cottos second best is malignaggi, hattons is castillo, cottos third best is quintana, hattons is collazo.
hattons easily fought the better guys, hatton doesn't get knockdown, cotto does so how can cotto have the better chin?
hatton has more heart than any other fighter in boxing just now cotto doesn't.
hatton owns cotto, cotto rejected an offer to fight hatton when both were at 140!!!
Hatton's heart is second to none period. The chin statement is funny, because Hatton has taken big shots from Zoo without being shaken.. Cotto has been shaken by the lesser hitters. Cotto may have similiar heart but you cant better Hatton's. Cotto is stronger at 147, but in a p4p sense i think Hatton is stronger. Hatton's wins over Zoo and JLC were very good wins, and whether you like him or not hes a world class fighter in the same league as Cotto.. and could very well beat him.AUDI99 said:
I like both fighters. Think they are awsome but no doubt about it Hattons better.
I cant beileve you think cotto has a better chin when he's been lucky not to been stoped by corley and a few others.
Hatton walks through punches without really being shaken. Both wicked body punchers but i think the angles hatton can deliver them in with are better than cottos. I think cotto is very good at welter (better than hatton) but at 140 he would get bullied and knocked out. 147 is a much more even fight if hatton fought the way he did against collazo but still id defo put money on hatton beating him at either weight.
We realy dont know how good hatton is at welter because he was fighting such a tricky fellow in collazo. Put him in with cotto and he wins by KO or TKO
I cant beileve you think cotto has a better chin
when he's been lucky not to been stoped by corley and a few others. Hatton walks through punches without really being shaken. Both wicked body punchers but i think the angles hatton can deliver them in with are better than cottos. I think cotto is very good at welter (better than hatton) but at 140 he would get bullied and knocked out. 147 is a much more even fight if hatton fought the way he did against collazo but still id defo put money on hatton beating him at either weight.
We realy dont know how good hatton is at welter because he was fighting such a tricky fellow in collazo. Put him in with cotto and he wins by KO or TKO
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Ill first start by saying cotto is better than hatton and would beat him at any weight.
That said, hatton has a better chin, weaker stomach though. Hatton is more aggressive but doesnt hit as hard. Cotto has about as big of heart as ive ever seen and seems inferior to pain, never seen him hurt ( as in pain ). I have seen hatton hurt but hardly ever wobbled or anything like that. its a good comparison but i'd say they are equal on paper but cotto would definently pull through with the victory, it'll happen some day and mark my word.
That said, hatton has a better chin, weaker stomach though. Hatton is more aggressive but doesnt hit as hard. Cotto has about as big of heart as ive ever seen and seems inferior to pain, never seen him hurt ( as in pain ). I have seen hatton hurt but hardly ever wobbled or anything like that. its a good comparison but i'd say they are equal on paper but cotto would definently pull through with the victory, it'll happen some day and mark my word.
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i didnt say it did, but he hasnt lost , and has overcame way more adversity than hatton to do so.
Yes against lower class fighters than hattons fought. Hattons fought better oposition than cotto and never realy been shook up part from a maggee knockdown and the collazo fight. Every step up cotto makes he seems to get more and more stunned. He has a good chin in sticking in there and geting throught the round hes troubled but IMO shouldnt have to go throught that punishment.TysonJones said:
Dont get me wrong i like the guy alot but theres something im not too keen about tbh and im not sure what it is.
I see the first 4 rounds being very even alot of clinching mainly by ricky roughing cotto up. Both of them landing there fair share.
Rounds 5-6 Hattons tieing cotto up throughing mainly body shots, clinching, body shots, clinching all the time cotto counting with nice shots. Somewhere in the fight hatton lands a nice hook to the body that takes the air out of cotto. I could also see ricky geting off the canvas aswell though. I could see this going the distance and Hatton due to clinching and throughing more leather geting a close decision . I take my words back if i said hatton wins by KO but if a hook landed like in the castilo fight its over.
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cotto takesx a better body shot than hatton. hatton hasnt fought the bigger NAMES.......old guys, but their names look good on hattons record. Cotto has fought a bunch of young undefeated hungry fighters who didnt have a name but were damn good in the ameteurs and some still only have that one loss on their record. So i wouldtn compare their records that much, they have fought equally good opponents.
an old urkal, old judah, are the biggest names on cottos record. Malignaggi is the best young fighter cottos fought and tbh i could giv that fight to paulie. Quintana was also good fighter.TysonJones said:
Tszyu was geting on but he was still a major name and the best at 140 at the time and castillo still a p4p fighter before hatton knocked him out. I know they where both geting on but still very good fighters. Collazo gave ricky a hell of a fight although i had ricky winning by maybe 2 rounds. Hatton also fought good opoonents in earlier fights as maggee and tackie . Urango was also young and hungry.
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Right now I say Hatton, but Cotto is on his heels. Just hard to agrue against Hatton making possibly the best 140lb fighter ever quit on his stool.
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i said they are even on paper, but i believe cotto would beat hatton on strength alone. hatton did beat a still very godo tszyu but hatton wouldnt of made tszyu quit when tszyu was the ruler of that division. they both deserve great props but threads like these only cause arguing lol. its an oppinion. until they fight, we will all wonder, and even after the fight, people will still claim that the loser is still bette.r
the shots that cotto have recived came from stronger fighters than hatton's oponents, thats why i say he has better chin, and ofcourse he has better heart we still havent seen hatton get up from a knockdown and come back stronger like cotto does, just look at the shots he took from judah and corley and didnt went down,,, you dont know what ur talking about, cotto is stronger, i still havent seen hatton's oponent look like they growing a second face. LOL. u guys think that hattons body shots are hard but i think that cottos body shots are harder, hatton cant take shots like cotto, remember that he had to run away from collazo on the last round, or hold him, he was about to get Knock the F--- out, and u know it..............:cheeky4:TommyGunn said:better oposition, better chin, more heart.
your way wide of the mark there, cottos best opponent is zab, hattons is kostya, cottos second best is malignaggi, hattons is castillo, cottos third best is quintana, hattons is collazo.
hattons easily fought the better guys, hatton doesn't get knockdown, cotto does so how can cotto have the better chin?
hatton has more heart than any other fighter in boxing just now cotto doesn't.
hatton owns cotto, cotto rejected an offer to fight hatton when both were at 140!!!
this must be the worst post ive seen on boxingforum for a long time. :laugh:AUDI99 said:
you say the shots cotto has recived are from stronger guys than hatton has faced.....lol....ummm kostya!
you say we haven't seen hatton get up from a knockdown and come on stronger, ummmm he done that against eamnon mcghee.
better body puncher than hatton? yeah right, keep telling yourself that, compare all there stoppages and you'll see hattons by far the better to the body.
hatton cant take a shot like cotto? OMG, put the bottle down man, does this even need to be replied to...
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This fight I would love to see happen. I agree with I think it was Tysonjones who said threads like this can only be solved by the pair actually fighting. My personal opinion is Hatton will be edge this war but Cotto certainly impressed me v Zab and a win v Mosley could sway me.
It bewilders me tho how people talk down Hattons victory of Kostya.
It bewilders me tho how people talk down Hattons victory of Kostya.
im not covinced about cottos opponents, lets look closer.
quintana: a relitive unknowan, his only notable win was over a very green joel julio who lacks skill at elite level. the guys also tailor made for a strong brawler.
oktay urkal: career 140 fighter, a career 140 guy who couldn't punch there never mind up at 147 where he fought cotto. urkal was also 37 years old and slightly past his best.
zab judah: past his best, had lost 2 and had a no contest from his last 4 fights, losing to floyd was no disgrace obviously but baldomir was, zab will never win a big fight again you can just tell that from watching some fighters and i said that after he lost to baldomir.
cottos being very carefully manufactured in his 147 career and its got a lot of people fooled, we dont have long to wait till mosley exposes this though and we can stop making these silly comparisons to hatton all the time when its plain to see he's just not as good!
quintana: a relitive unknowan, his only notable win was over a very green joel julio who lacks skill at elite level. the guys also tailor made for a strong brawler.
oktay urkal: career 140 fighter, a career 140 guy who couldn't punch there never mind up at 147 where he fought cotto. urkal was also 37 years old and slightly past his best.
zab judah: past his best, had lost 2 and had a no contest from his last 4 fights, losing to floyd was no disgrace obviously but baldomir was, zab will never win a big fight again you can just tell that from watching some fighters and i said that after he lost to baldomir.
cottos being very carefully manufactured in his 147 career and its got a lot of people fooled, we dont have long to wait till mosley exposes this though and we can stop making these silly comparisons to hatton all the time when its plain to see he's just not as good!
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