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Who wins?

I dont see the extra 4lbs being a huge factor here for Pep, he fought guys like Saddler who were a lot bigger than him.

Pep wins UD.
 

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Pep unanimous 15 round decision. I think he would be too elusive for Mayweather to get anyshots off, and too fast for Mayweather to go into a defencive shell. Neither had the power to hurt eachother, but it would be a technical war.
 

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Evolved In what way? They make more money, that's about it. As far as distance, that's been cut. The number of times they fight per year is overall lower. Fights are stopped sooner. Gloves are probably more padded, and safer. I'd say the evolution has been going backward as far as tougher, better fighters.
 

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If Pep was so good why did he lose so many fights during his prime? And against nobodies at that! I'll give you Saddler, but that's it. Boxing has evolved like every other sport.
Pep was 123-1 at one point of his career. Fighters in those days had to fight to eat so they had to fight with injuries.

Would Mayweather have won a fight a week after breaking his hand? I think you know he wouldn't.
 

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If Pep was so good why did he lose so many fights during his prime? And against nobodies at that! I'll give you Saddler, but that's it. Boxing has evolved like every other sport.
He didn't. He went 63-0-0 before his first loss. He was in a major plane crash that ended his prime early. After the crash, he wasn't supposed to even be able to walk, but 6 months later he was fighting again and won over 100 more fights. He ended up with only a 4% loss percentage.
 

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You can only watch a handful of Pep fights all in terrible quality, how the hell anyone can come to any proper conclusion on how good he actually was is beyond me.
News reports, the bits of an older Pep where it's black and white film, but still not terrible quality. Also all of the people that were around back in those days. There are plenty of other ways of figuring out how great someone was besides watching them in high def and great pictures/media exposure.
 

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You can only watch a handful of Pep fights all in terrible quality, how the hell anyone can come to any proper conclusion on how good he actually was is beyond me.
Try watching ESPN classics, ive seen losts of Pep fights on there and the quality is just as good as the Robinson and Louis fights.

Easily watchable but black and white.
 

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Try watching ESPN classics, ive seen losts of Pep fights on there and the quality is just as good as the Robinson and Louis fights.

Easily watchable but black and white.
I agree, they are easy to watch, just recently ESPN classics have only shown Holyfield, Ali, Tyson (greatest hits and Douglas), and Whitaker. If I see Ali-Foreman one more time...:mad:
 

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I agree, they are easy to watch, just recently ESPN classics have only shown Holyfield, Ali, Tyson (greatest hits and Douglas), and Whitaker. If I see Ali-Foreman one more time...:mad:
You guys are lucky.

We get Cricket from the 70's all the time. :laugh:
 
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