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Havent done one of these threads for awhile, so i thought id start it off;)

#1. Floyd Mayweather
#2. Manny Pacquiao
#3. Joe Calzaghe
#4. Juan Manuel Marquez
#5. Miguel Cotto
#6. Bernard Hopkins
#7. Israel Vazquez
#8. Juan Diaz
#9. Kelly Pavlik
#10. Rafael Marquez

HM: Dawson, Mosley, Wlad, Mijares & Winky
 

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im always wanting Pavlik higher on those kind of lists. He has just had such a good 2007, much better then Joe Calz, Cotto, Rafa marquez, Vasquez, B-hop, and even better then Cotto's. His record is unmatched comparing Knockouts to wins, and he has beat the best in his weight in dramatic form.

1. Money May
2. Manny
3. Joe Calz
4. B-hop
5. Pavlik
6. JMM
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Isreal Vasquez
9. Juan Diaz
10.Winky
 

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Margarito is pound for pound the baddest man throwing down!

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Mayweather
Pacqiuao
Calzaghe
Cotto
JMM
Pavlik
Hopkins
Dawson
Juan Diaz
Whoever wins the trilogy between marquez and vasquez
 

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#1. Floyd Mayweather.
#2. Joe Calzaghe.
#3. Manny Pacquio
#4. Bernard Hopkins.
#5. Juan Manuel Marquez.
#6. Miguel Cotto.
#7. Israel Vasquez.
#8. Winky Wright.
#9. Kelly Pavlik
#10. Ricky Hatton
 

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I would rate Cotto's wins over Urkal, Judah & Mosley above Zertuche, Miranda & Taylor personally. Plus, Vazquez & Calzaghe have both beaten the best in their weight class too this year. Pavlik is still young and improving, IMO he should be on the lower end of P4P lists at the moment.
 

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#0 - John Ruiz:) (p4p king)
#1 - floyd jr.
#2 - Joe Calzaghe
#3 - Manny Pacquiao
#4 - Bernard Hopkins
#5 - Miguel Cotto
#6 - Juan Manuel Marquez
#7 - Chris John
#8 - Israel vasquez
#9 - Kelly Pavlik
#10 - Juan Diaz

Winky Wright isnt making the top10 because hes been way too inactive, and his last performance wasnt quite good...So I'm waiting
 

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Mayweather
Calzaghe
Manny Pacquio
Cotto
Juan Manuel Marquez
Hopkins
Mosely
Pavlik
Hatton (one loss is one loss especially against Mayweather)
Winky

But that is based on where I think they are rated and not how I rate them as such.

If Calzaghe beats Hopkins then he will leapfrog Mayweather for me.
 

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1. Mayweather
2. Calzaghe
3. Cotto
4. Pacquiao
5. JMM
6. Hopkins
7. Vazquez
8. Juan Diaz
9. Shane Mosley
10. Winky Wright

Pavlik doesn't make my list. I don't rate him highly as a p4p boxer.
 

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Mayweather
pacman
pavlik
calzaghe
Vazquez
B-Hop
Cotto
R Marquez
hatton
Winky


So, Shane. What does pavlik have to do this year to get on your P4P list?
 

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Mayweather
pacman
pavlik
calzaghe
Vazquez
B-Hop
Cotto
R Marquez
hatton
Winky


So, Shane. What does pavlik have to do this year to get on your P4P list?
Beat Calzaghe or Hopkins. Or beat Taylor without taking a million shots in doing so.
 

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Mayweather
pacman
pavlik
calzaghe
Vazquez
B-Hop
Cotto
R Marquez
hatton
Winky


So, Shane. What does pavlik have to do this year to get on your P4P list?
So Juan Manuel Marquez doenst make it at all?

man I think Pavlik deserves the spot, he just beat JT who was cracking most lists in the top5.
 

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Beat Calzaghe or Hopkins. Or beat Taylor without taking a million shots in doing so.
I don't care how many punches he takes as long as he gets the W. He could get floored 5 times and comeback to KO the guy and it would just move him further up on my list cause heart and will are a HUGE part of boxing.
 

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Not for me. I do pound for pound lists based on how good a guy boxes technically relative to weight. Pavlik is a heavy puncher who gets nailed a LOT. His defense isn't up to the level of his offense. You should put Katsidis on your list!
 

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Pavlik showed he is a big deal at his weightclass.. He handled the tough (zertuche), the strong (Miranda), and the quick (Jermain Taylor) - Not to mention, he did it all by Knockout, if his speed or mobility doenst carry him to the top ten, his power and accuracy should;
 

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That's your opinion.
Yeah it is... Anyways, I wouldnt rank him much higher too, he makes #9 in my list as a matter fact Jermain Taylor was overrated back then.. So you having him below 10 isnt really something odd..btw, you're the only one besides me having Chris John in the lsit
 
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